[12:21] CDB Barkley: Our schedule will likely slide in start time as people are just able to log in [12:23] CDB Barkley: Please stand by as we wait for folks to realize the grid is open [12:24] CDB Barkley: Well, we can see who checks the SL status site! [12:25] CDB Barkley: Hello [12:25] Paribus Habilis: LOL [12:25] CDB Barkley: We are late starting due to the cat who tripped over the server's power cord at Linden Lab [12:25] robrob McCoy: do folks have to be in the nmc group to join this session? [12:26] CDB Barkley: Yes, to get to this sim, they must join "NMC Guests" [12:26] robrob McCoy: ah [12:26] CDB Barkley: Keeps out the riff raff [12:26] robrob McCoy: dont be so sure ;-) [12:26] CDB Barkley: LOLOLOL [12:26] Paribus Habilis looks at self and wonders how this riff raff got in! Hmmmm... [12:26] CDB Barkley sez sliding scale [12:27] Corbie Acorn: trying not to look too close at self [12:27] Paribus Habilis feels validated and grins. [12:28] MsMauri Collins: Bless you ! [12:29] CDB Barkley: Welcome [12:29] Leslie Beaumont: good afternoon [12:29] CDB Barkley: Who here is on the presenters list? [12:29] Leslie Beaumont: i am [12:29] CDB Barkley: Great! [12:29] Paribus Habilis: sorry for rezzing on top of you, Kavon -- i *knew* it was a mistake to log from that location yesterday! [12:29] CDB Barkley: Please stay in the middle [12:29] CDB Barkley: in the ring is okay [12:29] MsMauri Collins: Annie will be here in a minute [12:29] CDB Barkley: That circle is optimum placement for listening range to the seats for chat and voice [12:29] Leslie Beaumont: where the rotten fruit is targeted? [12:30] CDB Barkley: Okay. [12:30] CDB Barkley: Thanks for being patient with the grid outage [12:30] Kavon Zenovka: no problem [12:30] MsMauri Collins: hmm guess I better get my ears on... [12:30] Palani Allen: Hello! [12:30] CDB Barkley: Mauri and Leslie- any time conrtraints? I thought we'd wait about 10 or mroe minutes [12:31] Leslie Beaumont: i have no time constraints. i do want to ask MsMauri what she has in mind; I have slides and a demo for my part [12:31] MsMauri Collins: no constraints today [12:31] MsMauri Collins: Annie is bringing our ppt with her [12:31] CDB Barkley: So while we are waiting, audience, tell us where you are from and how the weather is today? [12:31] MsMauri Collins: will this session be text or voice? [12:32] CDB Barkley: Mauri, its up to you, depends if the audience has enough ears to hear [12:32] Leslie Beaumont: im going to type and mayve speak if spoken to [12:32] robrob McCoy: my ears are on [12:32] Kavon Zenovka: Denver - cold but it just won't snow [12:32] Leslie Beaumont: i can hear voice; my voice is a bit unstable when i talk [12:32] Paribus Habilis chimes in: From Los Angeles ... COLD (by LA standard) and very overcast today. (also have "ears" as you say) [12:32] andrea Veliz: University of west Florida, sunny and beautiful :) [12:32] Leslie Beaumont: as msmauri knowns [12:32] robrob McCoy: Dallas warmish [12:33] Paribus Habilis: year ya! YAY [12:33] Paribus Habilis: hear* [12:33] Corbie Acorn: sounds good [12:33] Corbie Acorn: fine [12:33] MsMauri Collins: we like text...it is most stable [12:33] CDB Barkley: I am in Sunny Scottsdale, AZ [12:33] Kavon Zenovka: I'm on a college computer today and they nixed voice [12:33] MsMauri Collins: Las Vegas: sun shining, sky blue...palm trees outside window moving gently in light breeze [12:34] Leslie Beaumont: yes im planning to talk in text, take both kinds of comments, may answer voice comments in kind [12:34] CDB Barkley: Ouch, those bans [12:34] Leslie Beaumont: also you can read the talk part from my slides ;-) [12:34] robrob McCoy: is there a quick way to join as NMC guest I have a person who would like to join us today [12:34] CDB Barkley: If you use voice to present let me know and if it is okay to record the audio [12:34] Kavon Zenovka: they are having a VOIP debate and don't want to intro anything new [12:34] Leslie Beaumont: its instantaneous...and free... [12:34] CDB Barkley: robrob- they just search n NMC Guests and self join [12:34] robrob McCoy: perfect [12:34] robrob McCoy: thanks [12:35] Kavon Zenovka: yes - but the Bandwidth [12:35] Kavon Zenovka: or so I have been told [12:35] Leslie Beaumont: Boise Idaho, clear and cold, icy mess on roads [12:36] Corbie Acorn: Washington DC 60's and sunny [12:36] CDB Barkley: So for those at schools, has your session started or is it ramping up? [12:36] Kavon Zenovka: not yet - Jan 22 [12:36] Leslie Beaumont: our choice of dress is interesting -- you in your overalls and i in my opera dress ;-) [12:36] CDB Barkley: Both w/ bling [12:36] MsMauri Collins: I am in the middle of an island build [12:37] CDB Barkley: Welcome! [12:37] Leslie Beaumont: of course life without bling has no meaning [12:37] MsMauri Collins: one of my other avis is Magpie...known for liking BLING :-) [12:37] CDB Barkley: We are waiting a bit to start as people realize the grid is open [12:37] CDB Barkley: Welcome baldric [12:37] Baldric Commons: thankyou [12:38] CDB Barkley: We arre late starting with the grid outage, but will begin soon [12:39] MsMauri Collins: there...got my belt on straight :-) Such things are important :-) [12:39] CDB Barkley: The angle looks more real [12:39] Leslie Beaumont: in case of weather [12:39] CDB Barkley: How many here are starting a new SL project now or soon? (fishing for conversation starters) [12:40] MsMauri Collins: We just got our island...and are hopefully in the 'design' stages :-) [12:40] Leslie Beaumont: the parasol in case i was by accidnet not quite overdressed [12:40] CDB Barkley: terraforming is just so much fun [12:40] Kavon Zenovka: Putting SL Learning modules into a criminal justice and evidence class [12:40] CDB Barkley: That's neat Kavon [12:41] CDB Barkley: role play? [12:41] MsMauri Collins: boss told the boys on our 'visualization' team to go "play" so I spend a lot of time filling in the craters they leave behind [12:41] Kavon Zenovka: ABsolutely role play and planning on strewing clues around [12:42] CDB Barkley: There ought to be 2 more presenters.... who was from the UK? [12:42] MsMauri Collins: Annie...she is online, but brining our ppt with her [12:42] Leslie Beaumont: MissAnnie isnt here yet [12:42] MsMauri Collins: so may be having some issues...I sent her a TP [12:42] CDB Barkley: ok, we'll wait a bit [12:42] Leslie Beaumont: i could start if needed, mine is self contained [12:43] CDB Barkley: Here she is! [12:43] CDB Barkley: Welcome [12:43] CDB Barkley: nice landing [12:43] Leslie Beaumont: hi MissAnnie! [12:43] robrob McCoy: we are just working out voicechat ;) [12:43] robrob McCoy: srry bout that [12:43] MissAnnie Ducatillon: hi [12:44] MissAnnie Ducatillon: excause me for a minute don't have voice [12:44] MissAnnie Ducatillon: me and my headset are in 2 different locations [12:44] Leslie Beaumont: i supose the umbrella really is too much [12:44] MsMauri Collins: got ears on, but no sound [12:44] MsMauri Collins: rather use chat [12:44] CDB Barkley: Annie, you can text if you prefer or must [12:44] CDB Barkley: Welcome everyone to this special session... [12:44] MissAnnie Ducatillon: i can't hear anyonen i'm afraid [12:44] Leslie Beaumont: do you ladies want to go first or shall i? [12:44] CDB Barkley: We have 3 students from Lisa Dawley's class last semester [12:45] CDB Barkley: EDTECH 597: Teaching & Learning in Second Life class (Boise State University, EDTECH Island) this past semester to present their findings on the Challenges & Solutions for Teaching in Second Life. [12:45] MissAnnie Ducatillon: oh you go first leslie [12:45] CDB Barkley: The class is already over, but these folks have agreed to share their findings [12:45] MsMauri Collins: please do Leslie [12:45] Leslie Beaumont: sigh i should have phrased that differently ;-) [12:45] CDB Barkley: as soon as they sort out the order... [12:45] MsMauri Collins: lol [12:45] MissAnnie Ducatillon: :) [12:45] CDB Barkley: But thanks for bearing with us and the grid today [12:46] Leslie Beaumont: oops [12:46] MsMauri Collins: how about we come over and be audience? [12:46] CDB Barkley: We dont always have to sit! [12:46] CDB Barkley: The classes summary doc is at http://tinyurl.com/29ooph [12:46] Leslie Beaumont: i seem to be suffereing from lagged movement [12:47] CDB Barkley: You look ok.... [12:47] MissAnnie Ducatillon: do too leslie [12:47] Leslie Beaumont: lagged everything in fact [12:47] MissAnnie Ducatillon: i do too [12:48] Leslie Beaumont: anyway, my research topic is a practical problem with math instruction in SL [12:48] Leslie Beaumont: Im an academic but not in education so my talk is rather lacking references [12:48] Leslie Beaumont: and long on discussion of my own expereince and activities [12:49] Leslie Beaumont: on this slide i point out that i have seen two problems wiht online math instruction [12:49] Leslie Beaumont: one of them is the problme of linear versus tradictiona symbolism this is really a non issue and mostly dismissed on this slie [12:50] Leslie Beaumont: the advance of fancy calculators and CAS's like Maple means that adequate ASCII notation is readily available and ofren familiar to students already [12:50] Leslie Beaumont: the intractible problme is free hand drawing which i bring in at bottom of this slide [12:51] Leslie Beaumont: there is a common misunderstanding of the issue [12:51] Leslie Beaumont: there is no problem at all with math illustations and diagrams in SL [12:52] Leslie Beaumont: i could give a professional level lecutre in SL with confidence with any diagram i needed [12:52] Leslie Beaumont: the problem comes at the Q and A session and its really improtant in teaching [12:52] Jeff Kurka: Script run-time error [12:52] Jeff Kurka: Stack-Heap Collision [12:52] Leslie Beaumont: one needs to be able to draw impromptu to teach math well [12:52] Leslie Beaumont: in repsonse to questions [12:53] Leslie Beaumont: this is a specifically SL issue -- SL does not suppor tinworld drawing [12:53] Leslie Beaumont: its my understanding that some online teaching tools have good interactive whiteboards [12:54] Leslie Beaumont: i havent used them but iver heard rumors... [12:54] Leslie Beaumont: are people clickgin my slides? [12:54] Leslie Beaumont: please dont! [12:54] Leslie Beaumont: i think this is next slide! [12:55] Leslie Beaumont: I thought this would be a problem and i tested it by offering inworld math tutoring [12:55] Leslie Beaumont: ive had two relevant expereinces and in both of them drawing played a role [12:55] Leslie Beaumont: using two different tools, one made by Cubist Scarborough and the other something i built myself [12:56] Leslie Beaumont: meither is a perfect solutons [12:56] Leslie Beaumont: solution [12:56] Paribus Habilis: leslie--- my bad--- i accidentally advanced ur slide.. i think [12:56] Leslie Beaumont: i would not have chosen as my first teaching expereince in SL tutoring someone in Laplace transforms [12:56] Leslie Beaumont: np [12:57] Leslie Beaumont: just dont do it again [12:57] Paribus Habilis smacks own hands [12:57] CDB Barkley: we may make you solve an equation ;-) [12:57] Paribus Habilis sweats profusely [12:58] Leslie Beaumont: now it deosent advance ill have to reset it [12:58] Leslie Beaumont: there it shoudl talk about cbists board now [12:58] Leslie Beaumont: sorry about my typing [12:58] CDB Barkley: ok [12:59] CDB Barkley: you are fine [12:59] Leslie Beaumont: have any of you used this whiteboard? [12:59] CDB Barkley: Once [12:59] Kavon Zenovka: no [12:59] CDB Barkley: a long time ago when it first came out [12:59] Leslie Beaumont: it works by drawing on an external web page and uses the media feed to put the content into second life [12:59] Leslie Beaumont: you need to own the media feed or deed the board to the group that does [13:00] CDB Barkley: http://sl.nmc.org/2007/01/04/shared-markerboard-web-to-sl/ [13:00] Leslie Beaumont: there is a 15-20 s3econd delay in good conditions [13:00] Leslie Beaumont: it is very vulnerable to lag, both speed and drawing quality suffer [13:00] CDB Barkley: Not easy to draw either if I recall [13:01] Leslie Beaumont: in my expereince it is fiarly easy to use under good conditions -- i rand the external web page and SL on different computers and it works manageably [13:01] Leslie Beaumont: but boht the instructor and the student need to be patient [13:01] Leslie Beaumont: it does neatly solve the symbol problem i just drew my integrals -- and one can write about as well as draw (not very well, [13:01] Leslie Beaumont: admittedly) [13:02] Leslie Beaumont: Patio Plasma has also used it to teach i am told [13:02] Leslie Beaumont: it has a tendency to crash periodically [13:02] Leslie Beaumont: nd need to be rerezzed [13:02] Leslie Beaumont: not ideal but that partocular teaching session did seem to work -- i also used preprepared slides [13:03] Leslie Beaumont: after that i tried to create my own solution [13:03] Leslie Beaumont: my chalk object which i will demo in a minute [13:04] Leslie Beaumont: you can read the slide for technical info [13:04] Leslie Beaumont: it is fortunate that im a mathematician and i know what a quaternion is ;-) [13:04] CDB Barkley: Show us some chalk! [13:05] Leslie Beaumont: the chalk contains a mark -- it rezzes the mark at intervals depending on whether it has moved, and the mark then stretches itself in the direction of motion [13:05] Leslie Beaumont: this was quite tricky to implement [13:05] Leslie Beaumont: both on level of quaternions and vector calculus and on level of object oriented programming [13:05] Leslie Beaumont: my first LSL exercise, trial by fire [13:06] Leslie Beaumont: i see someone *clicked* [13:06] Leslie Beaumont: grrr [13:06] Leslie Beaumont: but no harm doen [13:06] Leslie Beaumont: you draw by clicking and dragging the chalk [13:06] Leslie Beaumont: originally it was sidewalk chalk, but physics creates problme s with that [13:07] Leslie Beaumont: so it is now nonphysical and draws on air in plane of vision [13:07] Leslie Beaumont: there it is [13:08] Leslie Beaumont: im just attaching my mouse [13:08] Leslie Beaumont: esier to control click and drag with mouse just a sec for laptop to notice it [13:08] Leslie Beaumont: voila [13:08] CDB Barkley: Wow [13:09] CDB Barkley: That is awesom [13:09] Kavon Zenovka: cool [13:09] Leslie Beaumont: therre are problems [13:09] Leslie Beaumont: one draws again a bit slowly [13:09] Leslie Beaumont: faster than with CS's board tho [13:09] Leslie Beaumont: fine detail is very slow ill get to that [13:09] Kavon Zenovka: I'm getting other instructors in the computer lab to come over and take a look - they love it. [13:09] Leslie Beaumont: it creates lots of prims [13:10] Paribus Habilis claps enthusiastically [13:10] CDB Barkley: So can you draw again from here or do you have to start over [13:10] Leslie Beaumont: the strecthing of the marks helps with that [13:10] CDB Barkley: yeah [13:10] Leslie Beaumont: chalk up [13:11] Leslie Beaumont: chalk down [13:11] Leslie Beaumont: chalk up [13:11] Leslie Beaumont: chalk down [13:11] CDB Barkley: Ahh, lift [13:11] Leslie Beaumont: chalk down [13:11] Leslie Beaumont: oops [13:11] Leslie Beaumont: chalk up [13:12] Leslie Beaumont: chalk down [13:12] Leslie Beaumont: i issue erase and color commands on a priavate channel [13:12] CDB Barkley: That's a complex function! [13:13] Leslie Beaumont: there is also a command which will erase just marks which havent been colored yet [13:13] Leslie Beaumont: see [13:13] CDB Barkley: I wish I could do this much as a first scripting project [13:13] Paribus Habilis: very nice! [13:13] Leslie Beaumont: i am a mathematician... [13:14] Leslie Beaumont: and im used to programming in odd languages [13:14] Leslie Beaumont: LSL is not my favorite.. [13:14] CDB Barkley claps loudly [13:14] Leslie Beaumont: i have taught one student using this [13:15] Leslie Beaumont: i found an issue right then and there [13:15] Leslie Beaumont: which i should have noticed in testing but which relly became clear in interpersonal context [13:15] Leslie Beaumont: freehand drawing of diagrams is natural if a bit slow and kludgy [13:15] Leslie Beaumont: but labelling a graph with numbers and symbols is painfully slow [13:16] Leslie Beaumont: teaching session grinds to halt while teacher lavbels axes [13:16] Leslie Beaumont: and this leads to my precise current palce in this prohect [13:16] Leslie Beaumont: typing wnet haywire just then [13:17] Leslie Beaumont: i had the idea of linking and saving letters for quick labelling [13:17] Leslie Beaumont: but when you rez the labels they rez in the right place for your view but far behind the drawing [13:17] Leslie Beaumont: unless you work against a backdrop [13:17] Leslie Beaumont: with a back drop (Ive jsut been using a large prim screen) [13:18] Leslie Beaumont: the problem is matching the sufrace with the plane of your vision so the chalk doesnt sink into it [13:19] Leslie Beaumont: and today it works! [13:19] Paribus Habilis: lol... if you pan around the presentation board, you can see the issue you are addressing [13:19] Leslie Beaumont: i just rezzed some letters -- and they showed up in mirrot image [13:19] Leslie Beaumont: ived had that happen too, you have to rotate them [13:20] Leslie Beaumont: there i jsut put the c in the right placed [13:20] Leslie Beaumont: fancy programming would be required, but the ideal solution might be to get the chalk to DRAW ON A BOARD [13:20] Leslie Beaumont: unfortunately that will involve more nastly math [13:20] Leslie Beaumont: any questions? [13:21] CDB Barkley: Wow... [13:21] CDB Barkley: Is the chalk tool available for others? [13:21] Leslie Beaumont: it is for sale [13:22] Leslie Beaumont: in fct the object which is up right now is self vending [13:22] Kavon Zenovka: how much? [13:22] Leslie Beaumont: ive just recently reset permissions in it i need someone to buy it and chelk that it works [13:22] CDB Barkley: $299 [13:22] Leslie Beaumont: make sure it works [13:22] CDB Barkley: i bought one [13:22] CDB Barkley: $200 [13:22] Leslie Beaumont: control click and drag on it [13:22] Leslie Beaumont: if it doesnt ill refund and give you one that does [13:24] Leslie Beaumont: did you test the chalk does it draw a line? [13:24] Failed to place object at specified location. Please try again. [13:24] Paribus Habilis: Leslie... wouldn't using simple prims and setting LLSetText() be a simpler solution for the labeling probelm, or have you encountered problems with that type of solution as well? [13:24] Failed to place object at specified location. Please try again. [13:24] Leslie Beaumont: yes, add a typiung function to it is another idea [13:24] Leslie Beaumont: just requires more programming [13:24] Leslie Beaumont: good it works [13:25] Leslie Beaumont: now type "/17 erase" [13:25] CDB Barkley: sweet [13:25] Leslie Beaumont: good its in working order [13:25] Leslie Beaumont: have fun [13:25] CDB Barkley: Thanks Leslie [13:25] CDB Barkley: Let's give her a big hand [13:25] CDB Barkley: Poof! [13:25] CDB Barkley: Who's next? [13:25] Leslie Beaumont: im sitting [13:25] MissAnnie Ducatillon: /claps [13:25] Leslie Beaumont: im still here! [13:25] CDB Barkley claps all paws [13:25] MsMauri Collins applause [13:26] CDB Barkley: Who is next? [13:26] Kavon Zenovka: applause [13:26] CDB Barkley: Please take the stage [13:26] MissAnnie Ducatillon: i suspect that is the Ms and I [13:27] MsMauri Collins: Excuse us a minute while we set up the ppt [13:27] MsMauri Collins: chat among yourselves...check your inventories for loss...etc [13:28] MissAnnie Ducatillon: can someone check mine? [13:28] MissAnnie Ducatillon: M can you check for position? [13:28] CDB Barkley: I found a few thousand extra lindens [13:28] MissAnnie Ducatillon: i droped those earlier [13:28] CDB Barkley: and some strange unused body parts [13:29] MsMauri Collins: THAT"S where they went...hand them over please!! [13:29] CDB Barkley: Hah! [13:29] MissAnnie Ducatillon: you're always dropping those mauri [13:29] CDB Barkley: A _______ and two big ___________s are on their way [13:30] MsMauri Collins shouts: nonononon...the LINDens NOT THE BODY PARTS [13:30] CDB Barkley: gotcha [13:30] MissAnnie Ducatillon: i thought you paid your lindens for the body parts? [13:30] MsMauri Collins: Well, I do have a whole duplicate set, sitting right over there! [13:31] Menody Collas: Over here! [13:31] Menody Collas: Over here! [13:31] Menody Collas: Over here! [13:31] MissAnnie Ducatillon: ok so slide 1 has decided to disappear [13:31] MsMauri Collins: Creating groupness Facilitating new learners into a SL class [13:32] MissAnnie Ducatillon: anyone wants the notecard they can have it? [13:33] MissAnnie Ducatillon: you start mauri whle the slideshow rezzes again [13:34] MissAnnie Ducatillon: ok the one to my right is available for flicking and hopefully copying [13:34] MissAnnie Ducatillon: :) [13:34] Menody Collas gave you nmc creating groupness. [13:35] MissAnnie Ducatillon: shall we begin mauri? [13:35] MsMauri Collins: Miss Annie, Menody dropped the notecard on everyone [13:35] MissAnnie Ducatillon: ah that's why everyone went quiet! [13:35] MsMauri Collins: DId everyone get it? [13:35] Leslie Beaumont: stunned [13:36] Paribus Habilis: got it, thanks! [13:36] Jeff Kurka: yes [13:36] Maya Debevec: yes [13:36] MissAnnie Ducatillon: great [13:36] Ruby Snook: yes [13:37] MissAnnie Ducatillon: so as you know we were a large class and we were quite distributed around the globe [13:37] MissAnnie Ducatillon: with some intersting time zones [13:37] MsMauri Collins: Annie did everything after midnight [13:38] MissAnnie Ducatillon: our 4pm class was at 12am for me and for Helen at 10am Friday [13:38] MsMauri Collins: We were all commuter students [13:38] MissAnnie Ducatillon: this made it quite hard to create a group atmosphere [13:38] MsMauri Collins: We wereall busy [13:38] MissAnnie Ducatillon: my unni were very good about mny fridays [13:38] MsMauri Collins: not much time to "hang out" together [13:39] MsMauri Collins: so we didn't feel very 'groupy' [13:39] MsMauri Collins: so this became, for us, an importing feeling to establish [13:39] MsMauri Collins: for new users [13:39] MissAnnie Ducatillon: that meant also that there wasn't as much skills sharing as their might have been [13:40] MsMauri Collins: I am a big beliver in 'people who dress the same.... [13:40] MissAnnie Ducatillon: and we know that there is little time for that with new users and we would need quick teaching solutions [13:40] MsMauri Collins: feel like they are members of a group... [13:40] MsMauri Collins: and we discovered that members of our group felt the same [13:40] MsMauri Collins: thus the development of our first exercise [13:41] MissAnnie Ducatillon: wich also enabled new residents to learn basic skills [13:41] MsMauri Collins: lots of other good things built in...like discovering stuff in your inventory library that new folks don't know are there... [13:41] MsMauri Collins: like the tshirt templates and textures [13:42] MissAnnie Ducatillon: and editing appearance in general [13:42] MissAnnie Ducatillon: some hadn't mastered that [13:42] MsMauri Collins: very basic skills [13:42] MissAnnie Ducatillon: i also had rl teachers doing the same thing [13:43] MsMauri Collins: The whole exercise took about 15-20 minutes [13:43] MsMauri Collins: We set up instructions on white boards for everyone to follow [13:43] MissAnnie Ducatillon: more than one so that you didn't have to wait [13:43] MsMauri Collins: and discovered its best if the instructors provide the choice of textures [13:44] MissAnnie Ducatillon: not everyone is 'blessed' with a huge inventory [13:44] MissAnnie Ducatillon: and it's hard to find them when its laggy [13:44] MsMauri Collins: just in case someone has a favorite texture - and is lobbying hard for it...and then gets knocked offline [13:44] MissAnnie Ducatillon: poor leslie [13:44] MissAnnie Ducatillon: :) [13:44] MsMauri Collins: :-) [13:45] Leslie Beaumont: i ws ok [13:45] MsMauri Collins: It is important to allow debrief time after activities like that [13:45] MissAnnie Ducatillon: we had to really think on our feet to get our groups to the end [13:45] MsMauri Collins: give the participants time to express how it felt to work in a group with strangers [13:46] MsMauri Collins: and how awkward newbies can feel trying something for the first time [13:46] MissAnnie Ducatillon: i noticed that as a tutor you wanted to be part of your group [13:47] MsMauri Collins: Miss Annie, why don't you tell the audience about the ambient sound exercise [13:47] MissAnnie Ducatillon: ok you're in charge of the slides [13:48] MissAnnie Ducatillon: i was born into a voiceless sl [13:48] MsMauri Collins: just because I look like Bob the Builder doesnt mean I can handle technical challenge likethat!@!!!~ [13:48] MissAnnie Ducatillon: so the world to me was a different place to the one with sound [13:48] MissAnnie Ducatillon: voice sound i mean [13:49] MissAnnie Ducatillon: and it started to be obvious that voice was dominating the class and we were missing out on other aspects of sl [13:49] MissAnnie Ducatillon: that and you need to manage your class jsut as in rl to enable everyone to speak [13:49] MissAnnie Ducatillon: so we turned off voice and i built a sound garden [13:50] MissAnnie Ducatillon: which was a garden based on a 17th knotgarden - sl style wth ambient sounds [13:50] Leslie Beaumont: goodenss i missed a lot by crashing out of that lession! [13:50] MissAnnie Ducatillon: we'll happily show anyone wanting to see [13:50] MsMauri Collins: ducks, bees, hummingbirds, wind, surf, peacock etc [13:50] MsMauri Collins: all made sounds [13:51] MissAnnie Ducatillon: so we asked everyone to wander around and listen to what they heard [13:51] MissAnnie Ducatillon: including weather [13:51] MissAnnie Ducatillon: and at the end of 5 mins, we all came back to the centre [13:51] MissAnnie Ducatillon: and we discussed what we had heard [13:52] MissAnnie Ducatillon: or felt and how the sounds impacted on our mood and senses [13:52] MissAnnie Ducatillon: what memories we thought about [13:52] MissAnnie Ducatillon: and the discussed whether this wold make an impact on teachng in sl [13:52] MissAnnie Ducatillon: scuse my spelling [13:53] MissAnnie Ducatillon: i was amazed at the impact it had to be honesdt [13:54] MissAnnie Ducatillon: i have a multimedia background and there is plenty in the games literature so i put the two together [13:54] MissAnnie Ducatillon: and as a group we worked through the activity [13:54] MissAnnie Ducatillon: do you want to add to that mauri? [13:54] MsMauri Collins: it was funny how some peopleexpressed fear... [13:55] MsMauri Collins: when they were over by the bee hive [13:55] MsMauri Collins: just because they were pixels...didn't stop the sound of the bees [13:55] MsMauri Collins: engendering the same memories, same fears [13:55] MissAnnie Ducatillon: i should also point out i crashed in the middle of all this [13:55] MissAnnie Ducatillon: and missed a lot of it [13:56] MissAnnie Ducatillon: yes it was intersting how people not liking a nose made an impact [13:56] MissAnnie Ducatillon: noise even! [13:56] MissAnnie Ducatillon: anyway we should more onto the last part [13:57] MsMauri Collins: The last part of the presentation was both serious and fun, but VERY complex in the back ground [13:58] MsMauri Collins: so I am going to ask Menody, who has the costume in inventory to help [13:58] MissAnnie Ducatillon: i've put the book that goes with it to the side [13:58] MsMauri Collins: We set up the powerpoint first..editing the slides among us using googledocs [13:58] MsMauri Collins: until we go the text right [13:59] MsMauri Collins: Then Men spent several thousand lindens coming up with the costumes and organizing them into folders [13:59] MsMauri Collins: we wanted to teach about appropriate ettiqette for teachers in SL [14:00] MsMauri Collins: and also, incidentally, the impact of the teacher's choice of both shape and costume [14:00] MissAnnie Ducatillon: an not send peopel to sleep [14:00] MissAnnie Ducatillon: :) [14:00] MsMauri Collins: We also created a notecard with a commentary on the slies [14:00] MsMauri Collins: so that as Men clicked through the slides AND changed her costume [14:00] Kavon Zenovka: what do you think is appropriate for teaching? [14:00] MsMauri Collins: she could also comment on, but not read, the slides [14:01] MsMauri Collins: shall we look at some of Men's choices and see what YOU think? [14:01] MissAnnie Ducatillon: personally i think plenty of appropriate - not sureabout nudity [14:01] MissAnnie Ducatillon: it does upset people [14:02] MissAnnie Ducatillon: so while we had a very dry ppt [14:02] MissAnnie Ducatillon: we had a 'show' that went with ti [14:02] MissAnnie Ducatillon: involving costume changing [14:02] MissAnnie Ducatillon: griefing [14:02] MsMauri Collins: of course our stooges inthea udience [14:02] MissAnnie Ducatillon: shouting out in class [14:02] MissAnnie Ducatillon: barging [14:03] MissAnnie Ducatillon: and we had a few class members join in [14:03] MsMauri Collins: and behaving in every way they could think of that a teacher might have to cope with [14:03] MsMauri Collins: First, some rules to make this a more experience for everyone.... Everyone must stay seated at all times NO TALKING!! That means NO QUESTIONS!! No clicking my slideshow ahead! Any thieves in the audience must keep their hands in their OWN pockets! [14:04] MissAnnie Ducatillon: we got a lot of laughter [14:04] MissAnnie Ducatillon: i had to really concentrate to not lose it a few times [14:04] MissAnnie Ducatillon: what happened was a few people forgot it was a show [14:05] MsMauri Collins: for the presenter it was very complex...you have to paste in your prepared text [14:05] MsMauri Collins: at a speed that people can read it [14:05] MsMauri Collins: I numbered the outfit folders so could change them in the right order [14:05] MsMauri Collins: and I was being very focused and very earnest about the presentation [14:05] MsMauri Collins: while the garden dissolved into laughter and chaos around me! [14:06] Menody Collas: and I ended up yelling [14:06] Menody Collas: I AM THE TEACHER!!! I AM THE TEACHER!! [14:06] MissAnnie Ducatillon: we'd managed to go from very reflective learning to chaos in no time [14:07] MsMauri Collins: but it was much more interesting [14:07] MissAnnie Ducatillon: and we took no notice because we wanted to show what might happen [14:07] MsMauri Collins: than someone standing in front of a ppt [14:07] MsMauri Collins: and droning on [14:07] MissAnnie Ducatillon: :) [14:07] MsMauri Collins: The whole lesson ran about an hour [14:07] MsMauri Collins: BUT it took the three of us working ahead of time [14:08] MsMauri Collins: for about 40 hours EACH to get everything running as smoothly as we could [14:08] MsMauri Collins: NO instructor in their RIGHT MIND [14:08] MsMauri Collins: would invest that much time in a regular class session [14:08] MsMauri Collins: that would play one time in a 16 week semester [14:09] MissAnnie Ducatillon: and we had horrendous technical problems [14:09] MsMauri Collins: as can be expected in SL [14:09] MissAnnie Ducatillon: so i think in the end the question is, how do we find a balance between this kind of planning and the reality of teaching [14:10] MsMauri Collins: teaching in SL is not like teaching in RL [14:10] MsMauri Collins stating the obvious [14:10] MissAnnie Ducatillon: although there are many issues that DO overlap [14:11] MsMauri Collins: and if someone wants to teach in SL, like all pioneers, they will find a way [14:11] MsMauri Collins: but Leslie has beenw orking on a solution with her chalk to one set of issues [14:11] MsMauri Collins: we tried to provide some exercises that could be replicated [14:12] MissAnnie Ducatillon: which we've done successfully with different audiences [14:12] MissAnnie Ducatillon: and have created learning objects to go with the sound activity [14:13] MissAnnie Ducatillon: and the book you can see for the manners activity [14:13] MsMauri Collins: I really wished we had been able to do a machinima of the whole exercise [14:13] MsMauri Collins: Anyone have any questions for us? [14:14] CDB Barkley: Wow, this is great stuff [14:14] MissAnnie Ducatillon: f you're not asleep [14:14] MsMauri Collins: Giggle...it also earned us the fun of TEACHING the whole course this spring!!! [14:14] CDB Barkley: It *should* be easier 2ns time [14:14] Ruby Snook: really, really interesting. thank you for sharing so much [14:15] MsMauri Collins: you are welcome :-) [14:15] Baldric Commons: yes, thankyou so much [14:15] Leslie Beaumont: but you will keep your clothes on, right? Idaho is a conservative state ;-) [14:15] CDB Barkley: You are not in Idaho any more Toto [14:15] MissAnnie Ducatillon: hahahaha [14:15] MsMauri Collins: afterthe first time through, Men rethought some of her outfits [14:16] MissAnnie Ducatillon: if anyone would like to see any of the thing we did then we're happy to do that [14:16] MsMauri Collins: Dress and shape is something that needs to be addressed at the beginning of a course [14:16] MsMauri Collins: and decisions made about what is, and is not, OK [14:17] MsMauri Collins: *I* think teachers need to wear the same level of conservatism online as they do in the classroom [14:17] MsMauri Collins: however..that is not shared by all [14:17] MissAnnie Ducatillon: no i don't really thnk that way [14:17] MissAnnie Ducatillon: :) [14:17] Leslie Beaumont: i would certainly never wear an opera dress to class... [14:17] MissAnnie Ducatillon: why not? [14:18] Ruby Snook: I am new to SL and am happy to watch/learn about whatever you are willing to present [14:18] Leslie Beaumont: in RL i mean [14:18] Leslie Beaumont: i would teach in it here no if i taught in this avi ;-) [14:18] Ruby Snook: I am not participating much but I am very enaged [14:18] MissAnnie Ducatillon: thanks ruby! [14:19] MissAnnie Ducatillon: it feels very silent [14:20] Leslie Beaumont: I think it is a very nice presentation, classmates... [14:20] Ruby Snook: as a newbie to SL, I chosemy appearance w/o any relationship to my job- I look how I wanted to look in SL which is not at all how I look in RL [14:20] MissAnnie Ducatillon: thank you lesie! [14:20] Ruby Snook: but the more I participate in SL esp. NMC, I am aware of the difference [14:21] Leslie Beaumont: in RL i am not a girl, and that presents a problem if i ever teach officially [14:21] MissAnnie Ducatillon: being different to rl is a very intersting journey [14:21] Leslie Beaumont: probably have ot use my boring male cutout [14:21] MissAnnie Ducatillon: jeremy in our class is a fox [14:22] MissAnnie Ducatillon: there are quite a few that play with appearance [14:22] Leslie Beaumont: i wouldnt mind showing up to class as my real SL self if it made a point -- but since i teach math i dont think gender bending would be content relevant ;-) [14:22] MissAnnie Ducatillon: it would be very intersting content though if it did [14:23] MissAnnie Ducatillon: has anyone else got any comments to add? [14:23] CDB Barkley: One more round of applause, YAY