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Hackshaven Harford - NOAA tour and Maya Realities demo. Sep 4 2007 Meteora
[9:03] Corwin Carillon: welcome everyone ...
[9:03] Corwin Carillon: just a reminder that sessions are recorded ..
[9:03] Corwin Carillon: and transcripts put on to the NMC Campus wiki
[9:03] Ahlan Oh: is this video available via www?
[9:03] Hackshaven Harford: yes
[9:03] Hackshaven Harford: it's on youtube
[9:03] Hackshaven Harford: do a search for "NOAA" under google video
[9:04] Ahlan Oh: very nice. will do.
[9:04] Corwin Carillon: we'll try and keep to chat do everyone is involved but Hackshaven does have audio if you want to through in a question and we will try and repeat it in chat
[9:04] Corwin Carillon: our thanks to Hackshaven for agreeing to the tour!
[9:04] Corwin Carillon: overr to you!
[9:04] Hackshaven Harford: thank you thank you
[9:04] Corwin Carillon: :)
[9:04] Hackshaven Harford: I guess we'll get started!
[9:04] Hackshaven Harford: so a bit of background
[9:05] Hackshaven Harford: how many of your are already farmiliar with NOAA's work here in SL?
[9:05] Hackshaven Harford: speak!
[9:05] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[9:05] Ahlan Oh: yes
[9:05] Togashi Jun: no
[9:05] Brett Bjornson: I am
[9:05] Wolfgang Manzo: yes
[9:05] Calisto Encinal raises his hand.
[9:05] Jerez Martinek: yes
[9:05] Keystone Bouchard: I am
[9:05] Alex Asylum: a little
[9:05] Heidi TeeCee: yes
[9:05] Ann Enigma raises her hand
[9:05] Roshana Rives: I have been here before
[9:05] Hackshaven Harford: so a b it of everything :)
[9:05] Hackshaven Harford: just wanted to gauge the audience :)
[9:05] Hackshaven Harford: if you get tired of listening to me
[9:05] Hackshaven Harford: if you click the movie button at the bottom of your screen
[9:06] Hackshaven Harford: you'll get a 4 minute overview of our first sim
[9:06] Hackshaven Harford: that said lets run through the slides
[9:06] Hackshaven Harford: and then get to what hopefully is the meat of our hour
[9:06] Hackshaven Harford: a tour and plenty of time for Q&A
[9:06] Hackshaven Harford: so behind me is a snap shot of our island
[9:06] Hackshaven Harford: taken around a month ago
[9:06] Hackshaven Harford: I don't think much has changed in the meantime :)
[9:07] Hackshaven Harford: just a quick overview of our island
[9:07] Hackshaven Harford: hopefully the new slide downloads for everyone :)
[9:07] Hackshaven Harford: on the left is a map
[9:07] Hackshaven Harford: highlighting our current exhibits
[9:07] Hackshaven Harford: a glacier t hat melts over time
[9:07] Hackshaven Harford: highlighting the effects of climate change
[9:07] Hackshaven Harford: a balloon you can hold on to ride up and learn a bout the instrumentation we use to collect weather data
[9:08] Hackshaven Harford: a P3 Orion hurricane hunter -- you can ride through a virtual hurricane high about the island
[9:08] Hackshaven Harford: a real time weather map
[9:08] Hackshaven Harford: and future area of expansion I'll get to in a bit
[9:08] Hackshaven Harford: the meeting hall we are in
[9:08] Hackshaven Harford: a tsunami that takes out those little houses
[9:08] Hackshaven Harford: sea life exhibit
[9:08] Hackshaven Harford: etc etc etc
[9:08] Hackshaven Harford: in the middle is something called "science on a sphere"
[9:08] Hackshaven Harford: which existed first in RL
[9:08] Hackshaven Harford: http://sos.noaa.gov/
[9:08] Hackshaven Harford: another area of future expansion :)
[9:09] Hackshaven Harford: so hopefully that bit of background brings all of you up to speed
[9:09] Hackshaven Harford: I'd be happy to talk more about our existing efforts
[9:09] Hackshaven Harford: as we get to the Q&A
[9:09] Hackshaven Harford: so first major new project
[9:09] Hackshaven Harford: is called "Second Earth"
[9:10] Hackshaven Harford: which derivied its name from a great article in the latest MIT Tech Review
[9:10] Hackshaven Harford: a very good read for those of you who haven't done so yet
[9:10] Ahlan Oh: excellent article!
[9:10] Hackshaven Harford: if you click the map button
[9:10] Hackshaven Harford: you'll notice to the south of us are 9 new sims
[9:10] Hackshaven Harford: second earth 1-9
[9:10] Hackshaven Harford: we plan on creating a best of breed between a traditional GIS application like google earth
[9:10] Hackshaven Harford: and a collaborative social environment like second life
[9:11] Hackshaven Harford: eventually all 9 sims will house a very large sphere
[9:11] Hackshaven Harford: roughly 700-750 meters in diamater
[9:11] Hackshaven Harford: and act a bit like the weather map in the airplane hanger
[9:11] Hackshaven Harford: we'll get to the tour part shortly :)
[9:11] Hackshaven Harford: our goal eventually is to create a KML to SL converter
[9:11] Ann Enigma cheers
[9:11] Hackshaven Harford: allowing anyone who follows the data format rules
[9:11] Hackshaven Harford: to visualilze their own data on the globe
[9:12] Hackshaven Harford: hopefully it can become a focal point for such visualizations
[9:12] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[9:12] Hackshaven Harford: also under development is an expansion to our ocean content to the west
[9:12] Hackshaven Harford: in the sim called the big island
[9:12] Hackshaven Harford: we'll get over there in a bit
[9:12] Hackshaven Harford: but there is a very cool oil spill visualization
[9:12] Hackshaven Harford: some great new sea creatures
[9:12] Hackshaven Harford: a harmful algeal (sp) bloom
[9:12] Hackshaven Harford: etc etc etc
[9:12] Hackshaven Harford: exciting to see come together
[9:13] Hackshaven Harford: so just a few slides that highlight some of the potential for informal education in SL
[9:13] Hackshaven Harford: not many of us will get to visit the titanic in RL
[9:13] Hackshaven Harford: we all could here
[9:13] Hackshaven Harford: and so could your students
[9:13] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[9:13] Hackshaven Harford: come on and load now....
[9:13] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[9:14] Corwin Carillon: :)
[9:14] Hackshaven Harford: hopefully you all can see the slide
[9:14] Roshana Rives: Contact Bob Ballard : )
[9:14] Hackshaven Harford: on the bottom is a map of the US
[9:14] Corwin Carillon: rezzing
[9:14] Hackshaven Harford: showing billion dollar weather disasters
[9:14] Hackshaven Harford: katrina clocks in at 125 billion
[9:14] Hackshaven Harford: and growing
[9:14] Scottmerrick Oh: there
[9:14] Hackshaven Harford: droughts in the 10s of billions
[9:14] Hackshaven Harford: and forest fires in the 3-7 billlion range
[9:14] Hackshaven Harford: obviously a big impact on the US economy
[9:15] Hackshaven Harford: our hope is that by teaching awareness about these issues
[9:15] Hackshaven Harford: we can literally save billions and save lives
[9:15] Hackshaven Harford: a darn good use of SL if you ask me
[9:15] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[9:15] Keystone Bouchard: wow!
[9:15] Scottmerrick Oh: /clap
[9:15] Bluewave Ogee: Beautiful!
[9:15] Roshana Rives: The best I have seen so far
[9:15] Hackshaven Harford: let me preface by saying this isn't NOAA's work
[9:16] Bluewave Ogee: who?
[9:16] Hackshaven Harford: I think vasser college (sp) made this visualization
[9:16] Hackshaven Harford: but libraries especially have a very unique oppurtunity to recreate scenes from novels
[9:16] Hackshaven Harford: to bring to life RL works
[9:16] Hackshaven Harford: in a scaleable environment
[9:16] Hackshaven Harford: I certainly hope to see more of these types of projects here
[9:17] Hackshaven Harford: and finally we are planning on using SL to prototype some of our new RL facilities
[9:17] Hackshaven Harford: the conference room you are standing in was based off the facility I am located in in RL
[9:17] Keystone Bouchard: Wow, this is amazing
[9:17] Hackshaven Harford: thank you keystone
[9:17] Hackshaven Harford: in SL we have the ability to track where people move around
[9:17] Hackshaven Harford: how they interact with spaces
[9:17] Hackshaven Harford: I'll be talking about that more in a minute
[9:17] Hackshaven Harford: that data can be used to optimize RL designs
[9:17] Hackshaven Harford: before you ever break ground
[9:18] Hackshaven Harford: think of it a bit like a collaborative CAD program
[9:18] Hackshaven Harford: btw any qustions?
[9:18] Drew Mortlock: hey corwin thx for inviting me
[9:18] Hackshaven Harford: or should I just keep typing
[9:18] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[9:18] Bluewave Ogee: you are doing great!
[9:18] Jerez Martinek: Carry on!
[9:18] Hackshaven Harford: which brings me to t he other hat
[9:18] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[9:18] Scottmerrick Oh: what new facilities are you planning to prototype?
[9:18] Hackshaven Harford: in addition to my work with NOAA
[9:19] Hackshaven Harford: I started a company called Maya Realities to focus on traffic analytics here in SL
[9:19] Hackshaven Harford: very good question Scott
[9:19] Hackshaven Harford: depends on which ones are willing to fund our work ;)
[9:19] Hackshaven Harford: so a bit of obvious background here
[9:19] Scottmerrick Oh: lol
[9:19] Hackshaven Harford: I'm sure most of the audience has seen some sort of graph like this hightlighting a typical product life cycle
[9:20] Ogion Rasmuson: question: did noaa hire a firm to build these sims or were they built in-house ?
[9:20] Hackshaven Harford: some variation of this works with most any project
[9:20] Hackshaven Harford: regardless of the medium or intent
[9:20] Hackshaven Harford: my personal belief
[9:20] Hackshaven Harford: is that we haven't really applied these somewhat obvious principles to a majority of our builds here in SL
[9:20] Hackshaven Harford: and as a result we see some of the negative backlash in the press
[9:20] Hackshaven Harford: personal belief :)
[9:20] Hackshaven Harford: you are more than welcome to disagree :)
[9:21] Theory Shaw: agreed.
[9:21] Hackshaven Harford: so what's missing?
[9:21] Bluewave Ogee: right...where is everyone? :-)
[9:21] Hackshaven Harford: well the other two steps :)
[9:21] Hackshaven Harford: and where companies like Maya Realities
[9:21] Hackshaven Harford: as well as others
[9:21] Hackshaven Harford: for example Ann Enigma in the audience
[9:21] Hackshaven Harford: runs slmetrics.com
[9:21] Hackshaven Harford: hope to enter into the equation
[9:21] Hackshaven Harford: loooooading
[9:21] Hackshaven Harford: right then
[9:22] Hackshaven Harford: so this is a picture of the conference room in which we are all sitting
[9:22] Hackshaven Harford: showing from three diferent angles
[9:22] Hackshaven Harford: the red dots indicate idle points
[9:22] Scottmerrick Oh: still rezzin' for me
[9:22] Hackshaven Harford: where someone goes away from keyboard
[9:22] Hackshaven Harford: sorry the the delay folks
[9:22] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[9:22] Hackshaven Harford: not much I can do about that
[9:22] Scottmerrick Oh: wow cool!
[9:22] Hackshaven Harford: I won't go into each of the bullets
[9:23] Hackshaven Harford: except to say I find it interesting that nearly everyone uses the stairs to get to the second floor
[9:23] Hackshaven Harford: WE CAN FLY FOLKS!
[9:23] Hackshaven Harford: and yet we choose not to :)
[9:23] Ann Enigma: lol!
[9:23] Scottmerrick Oh: is there a roof on the building? lol
[9:23] Hackshaven Harford: hehe
[9:23] Bluewave Ogee: well, it's also a control issue...with flying..:-) crashes
[9:23] Lyr Lobo chuckles
[9:23] Hackshaven Harford: there's a second floor
[9:23] Hackshaven Harford: so a roof helps
[9:23] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[9:23] Hackshaven Harford: this is our entrance area
[9:23] Corwin Carillon: a lot of sl buildings are not flyer friendly
[9:23] Bluewave Ogee: why have a roof at all?
[9:23] Hackshaven Harford: and could be treated much like a home page
[9:23] Hackshaven Harford: it's interesting to me that by placing our sinage in front of t he exit points
[9:24] Hackshaven Harford: we basically cut off the traffic flow
[9:24] Hackshaven Harford: again keeping in mind there is nothing preventing people from hopping the bench
[9:24] Hackshaven Harford: people just don't
[9:24] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[9:24] Hackshaven Harford: so yeah, lots of good data can be collected for sims
[9:24] Hackshaven Harford: and to my left
[9:24] Hackshaven Harford: over on the stand
[9:24] Hackshaven Harford: for anyone that's interesting we're giving out free proximity sensors
[9:24] Hackshaven Harford: just click the little free button
[9:25] Hackshaven Harford: this free version won't do all the fancy graphs and plots
[9:25] Roshana Rives: Interesting to build something SL user friendly rather than imitating RL
[9:25] Hackshaven Harford: but it will at least tell you the number of unique visitors, the total time spent, and average time
[9:25] Hackshaven Harford: for a range that you can define
[9:25] Hackshaven Harford: over the last hour, day, week, and month
[9:25] Hackshaven Harford: so with that I'm done talking
[9:25] Scottmerrick Oh: woowoo, thank you
[9:25] Hackshaven Harford: and I'm glad to see we still have over half our time
[9:25] Hackshaven Harford: for demos and Q&A
[9:26] Keystone Bouchard: Great work Hackshaven!
[9:26] Hackshaven Harford: thank you thank you
[9:26] Alex Asylum: thanks
[9:26] Hackshaven Harford: so up to you
[9:26] Corwin Carillon loves live demos :)
[9:26] Hackshaven Harford: Q&A now?
[9:26] Hackshaven Harford: or shall we herd cats so to speak
[9:26] Hackshaven Harford: and check out a few examples
[9:26] Mason Tuqiri: examples, please
[9:26] Hackshaven Harford: speeeeeak
[9:26] Scottmerrick Oh: I vote "B"
[9:26] Hackshaven Harford: right then
[9:26] Hackshaven Harford: lets head out to the entrance plaza
[9:26] Calisto Encinal: Meow...
[9:27] Hackshaven Harford: so lets start out with a traffic visualization
[9:27] Hackshaven Harford: I've never attempted this with this many folks on the sim
[9:27] Hackshaven Harford: so if we all crash and burn
[9:28] Hackshaven Harford: I appologize in advance :)
[9:28] Corwin Carillon: hehe
[9:28] Hackshaven Harford: behold a wooden box
[9:28] Max Chatnoir: Hello, box
[9:28] Hackshaven Harford: well what do you know
[9:28] Hackshaven Harford: ox
[9:28] Hackshaven Harford: ok
[9:28] Hackshaven Harford: so each of these boxes
[9:28] Hackshaven Harford: are an 8x8x8 grid
[9:28] Hackshaven Harford: the color
[9:28] Hackshaven Harford: is the relative traffic
[9:28] Max Chatnoir: WOW
[9:28] Scottmerrick Oh: :)
[9:29] Corwin Carillon: v cool!
[9:29] Hackshaven Harford: over the last month worth of data
[9:29] Ann Enigma: This is rad!
[9:29] Hack Richard: camera up high and watch
[9:29] Hackshaven Harford: yes
[9:29] Hackshaven Harford: you might get a better idea
[9:29] Hackshaven Harford: by zooming the caera out
[9:29] Hackshaven Harford: no you'll notice a small circle
[9:29] Hackshaven Harford: in the center of each cube
[9:29] Hackshaven Harford: lets all click them at once!
[9:29] Scottmerrick Oh: "Client/Disable Camera Restraints" for a wider view
[9:29] Hackshaven Harford: you'll notice the red dots around me
[9:29] Hackshaven Harford: those are actual sample values
[9:29] Hackshaven Harford: of the data we are collecting
[9:29] Scottmerrick Oh: wowzers
[9:29] Hackshaven Harford: again notice
[9:29] Hackshaven Harford: everyone stays on the ground
[9:30] Hackshaven Harford: what's wrong with you people
[9:30] Hackshaven Harford: ?!?
[9:30] Hackshaven Harford: ;)
[9:30] Max Chatnoir: THAT is spectacular!
[9:30] Scottmerrick Oh: i'm weeping tears of joy
[9:30] Hackshaven Harford: these will clear out in the next 5 minutes or so
[9:30] Hackshaven Harford: but you can see a majority of the traffic
[9:30] Scottmerrick Oh: very cool
[9:30] Hackshaven Harford: stays in the plaza
[9:30] Hackshaven Harford: with extra points surrounding our exhibits
[9:31] Hackshaven Harford: our hurricane merry go round also is quite popular :)
[9:31] Hackshaven Harford: and has absolutely nothing to do with science :)
[9:31] Max Chatnoir: So you place your boxes at 8 M intervals?
[9:31] Hackshaven Harford: right
[9:31] Hackshaven Harford: and boxes right now are only being displayed
[9:31] Hackshaven Harford: when the count value is above a ertain threshold
[9:31] Corwin Carillon: can see the popularity of the Tsunami beach
[9:31] Scottmerrick Oh: So HH is this tool NOAA designed?
[9:31] Kofi Unknown: why 8 and not 1o meters?
[9:31] Hackshaven Harford: hehe
[9:31] Kofi Unknown: 10 meters
[9:31] Hackshaven Harford: our most popular attraction
[9:31] Hackshaven Harford: according to our surveys
[9:31] Hackshaven Harford: oh!
[9:31] Hackshaven Harford: surveys
[9:32] Bluewave Ogee: tsunami beach is awesome!
[9:32] Hackshaven Harford: so in addition to traffic data
[9:32] Hackshaven Harford: we have database backended surveys
[9:32] Hackshaven Harford: an example was the speaker evaluation form
[9:32] Hackshaven Harford: on either side of me in the lecture hall
[9:32] Hackshaven Harford: there is also a survey for NOAA's island
[9:32] Hackshaven Harford: in various locations around the sim
[9:32] Hackshaven Harford: the results of these surveys
[9:32] Hackshaven Harford: get integrated with the rest of the data stream
[9:32] Hackshaven Harford: shall we move on or did you want to keep playing with data?
[9:32] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[9:33] Mason Tuqiri: Move on, please
[9:33] Corwin Carillon: ready to move on if others are
[9:33] Hackshaven Harford: hehe
[9:33] Hackshaven Harford: lets fly to the west
[9:33] Hackshaven Harford: into the next sim called the big island
[9:34] Max Chatnoir: WOW
[9:34] Hackshaven Harford: wow fun stream of green
[9:34] Hackshaven Harford: on the minimap
[9:34] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[9:34] Corwin Carillon: hehe
[9:34] Hackshaven Harford: wonder how many we'll loose
[9:34] Ann Enigma: lol, sorry scottmerrick!
[9:34] Corwin Carillon: see what this does to your data
[9:35] Hackshaven Harford: ann cheated
[9:35] Scottmerrick Oh: hey that was fun--never flew in a group that large :)
[9:35] Max Chatnoir: I gotta learn sculpties...
[9:35] Ann Enigma: I didn't cheat, I won. :)
[9:35] Brett Bjornson: I feel like a bird in a flock!
[9:35] Hackshaven Harford: by the way when we are finished
[9:35] Corwin Carillon: lol
[9:35] Hackshaven Harford: I'd like a show of hands as to who wants to kill that seagull
[9:35] Hackshaven Harford: so yes sculpties
[9:35] Jerez Martinek: lol
[9:35] Scottmerrick Oh: hey can someone remind me the key combo for turning off clouds?
[9:35] Hackshaven Harford: greatest thing since sliced bread
[9:35] Ahlan Oh: that was cool. My first time group flying!
[9:36] Hackshaven Harford: ctrl-alt-shift-minus
[9:36] Scottmerrick Oh: tanks
[9:36] Hackshaven Harford: one of the groups in NOAA
[9:36] Hackshaven Harford: is responsible for a variety of marine sanctuaries
[9:36] Hackshaven Harford: 14 or so in total around the globe
[9:36] Hackshaven Harford: we've highlighted 4
[9:36] Hackshaven Harford: shown on the 4 platforms behind you
[9:36] Hackshaven Harford: and chosen animals specific to those areas
[9:36] Hackshaven Harford: and plant life of course
[9:37] Hackshaven Harford: eventually this platform won't be here of c ourse
[9:37] Hackshaven Harford: and this content will be integrated with our existing content on the first sime
[9:37] Hackshaven Harford: sim
[9:37] Hackshaven Harford: creating a variety of sea exhibits
[9:37] Hackshaven Harford: the submarine that you may have seen flying over
[9:37] Hackshaven Harford: will be upgraded to be a type of moving movie theater
[9:37] Hackshaven Harford: showing different video clips of underwater sea life
[9:37] Scottmerrick Oh: You guys are having too much fun
[9:38] Hackshaven Harford: yes
[9:38] Hackshaven Harford: for a job this does not suck
[9:38] Hackshaven Harford: lets fly down to the land mass
[9:38] Max Chatnoir: Definitely!
[9:38] Scottmerrick Oh: lol
[9:38] Hackshaven Harford: there is a dock down there
[9:39] Hackshaven Harford: so there are three additional exhibits under way in the ocean
[9:39] Hackshaven Harford: in addition to the sea life
[9:39] Hackshaven Harford: to my right
[9:39] Hackshaven Harford: is a harmful algeal bloom
[9:39] Hackshaven Harford: when you get a chance
[9:39] Hackshaven Harford: fly over and also go under the water
[9:39] Hackshaven Harford: great particle effects
[9:40] Max Chatnoir: I feel like a sandhill crane.
[9:40] Hackshaven Harford: its like swimming in soup
[9:40] Hackshaven Harford: hehe
[9:40] Hackshaven Harford: we have some cranes over there too
[9:40] Max Chatnoir: Cool!
[9:40] Hackshaven Harford: off of this dock
[9:40] Hackshaven Harford: will be a charting demo
[9:40] Hackshaven Harford: one of these boats
[9:40] Hackshaven Harford: will drag a sounder
[9:40] Hackshaven Harford: creating a map
[9:40] Hackshaven Harford: of the sea floor
[9:40] Hackshaven Harford: yet another thing that NOAA does...
[9:40] Hackshaven Harford: NOAA does a lot you know?
[9:40] Ann Enigma: neat!
[9:41] Hackshaven Harford: finally lets fly over to the other side of the sim
[9:41] Bluewave Ogee: amazing!
[9:41] Hackshaven Harford: and clean up some oil
[9:41] Corwin Carillon: pollutin' again
[9:41] Scottmerrick Oh: messymessy, has Exxon been here?
[9:41] Hackshaven Harford: I am a polluter its true
[9:41] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[9:42] Hackshaven Harford: right then
[9:42] Hackshaven Harford: who wants to pilot the boat?
[9:42] Max Chatnoir: Great oil spill!
[9:42] Scottmerrick Oh: memememee
[9:42] Hackshaven Harford: well someone hop in
[9:42] Ahlan Oh: Yuck!!
[9:42] Hackshaven Harford: right click sit here
[9:42] Max Chatnoir: Ooh, I feel sticky.
[9:42] Hackshaven Harford: use the arrow keys
[9:42] Scottmerrick Oh: oooh making a big mess here
[9:42] Hackshaven Harford: don't type and drive at the same time
[9:42] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[9:43] Hackshaven Harford: shortly if he's doing what he should
[9:43] Ann Enigma: oh man, that's cool!
[9:43] Hackshaven Harford: we should see a clear trail behind him...
[9:43] Hackshaven Harford shouts: turn around!
[9:43] Hackshaven Harford: doh!
[9:43] Hackshaven Harford: who clicked the barrel
[9:43] Corwin Carillon: lol
[9:43] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[9:43] Hackshaven Harford: chaters!
[9:43] Hackshaven Harford: I mean
[9:43] Hackshaven Harford: cheaters!
[9:43] Corwin Carillon: lot of fun
[9:43] Hackshaven Harford: he hijacked my boat
[9:44] Ann Enigma laughs
[9:44] Hackshaven Harford shouts: clean the oil!
[9:44] Corwin Carillon: greenpeace
[9:44] Hackshaven Harford: oye
[9:44] Hackshaven Harford: someone else what to give it a whirl?)
[9:44] Corwin Carillon: this looks a lot like rl
[9:44] Corwin Carillon: nobody can clear it up right
[9:45] Scottmerrick Oh: go for it max
[9:45] Max Chatnoir: Who's driving this thing?
[9:45] Corwin Carillon: you max
[9:45] Max Chatnoir: Eep!
[9:45] Kofi Unknown: max is driving
[9:45] Kofi Unknown: i think
[9:45] Kofi Unknown: sorry
[9:45] Ahlan Oh: hi cousin!
[9:45] Corwin Carillon: go max go
[9:46] Max Chatnoir: I fell off...
[9:46] Max Chatnoir: This is WAY cool!
[9:46] Corwin Carillon: we lost hackshaven?
[9:46] Kofi Unknown shouts: is it this easy in RL?
[9:47] Max Chatnoir: Is anything?
[9:47] Deene Helgerud: Dat is nog eens ontmoeten...!
[9:47] Hackshaven Harford: right here!
[9:47] Roseann Oh: hallo
[9:47] Corwin Carillon: :)
[9:47] Hackshaven Harford shouts: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hackshaven/1317258930/in/set-72157594508651846/
[9:47] Roseann Oh: ok
[9:47] Hackshaven Harford: so in the final version
[9:47] Hackshaven Harford: we'll also be adding chemicals to assist in cleanup
[9:47] Hackshaven Harford: and potentially floating boooms
[9:47] Max Chatnoir: How about microorganisms?
[9:47] Hackshaven Harford: to contain the problem
[9:48] Hackshaven Harford: a far better word than chemicals Max
[9:48] Hackshaven Harford: we'll go with your phrasing
[9:48] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[9:48] Hackshaven Harford: if I get my way
[9:48] Hackshaven Harford: I think we need a good ol SL contest
[9:48] Scottmerrick Oh: Wow, so kool
[9:48] Hackshaven Harford: for fastest cleanup times
[9:48] Max Chatnoir: Is that the "cleaning agent"?
[9:48] Hackshaven Harford: right
[9:48] Corwin Carillon: a quest
[9:48] Scottmerrick Oh: yup, Lindens to the winner
[9:48] Hackshaven Harford: hehe
[9:48] Corwin Carillon: clean up dirty spots around SL
[9:48] Max Chatnoir: Great Idea, Hacks.
[9:48] Ann Enigma: Can we hook up a wii-mote to play? :)
[9:48] Hackshaven Harford: we'll see about the lindens part
[9:48] Corwin Carillon: lol
[9:49] Hackshaven Harford: maybe a scoreboard
[9:49] Hackshaven Harford: to show off your greatness
[9:49] Corwin Carillon: can you Ann for us?
[9:49] Max Chatnoir: Nah, just the GLORY!
[9:49] Ann Enigma: I just might!
[9:49] Corwin Carillon: make it along the lines of the IBM COdestation quest
[9:49] Hackshaven Harford: lets head back over to the weather map
[9:49] Hackshaven Harford: with our remaining time
[9:49] Hackshaven Harford: cool for those that haven't seen it
[9:49] Hackshaven Harford: also feel free to explore
[9:49] Hackshaven Harford: there is no need to follow me :)
[9:50] Corwin Carillon: thanks Hacks
[9:50] Brett Bjornson: Thanks!
[9:50] Ahlan Oh: thanks hack. this was great
[9:50] Max Chatnoir: There's a lot of new stuff here, Hacks.
[9:50] Torin Dryke: Thanks
[9:50] Hackshaven Harford: I'll be over in the airplane hanger
[9:50] Hackshaven Harford: if anyone has questions
[9:50] Heidi TeeCee: thanks
[9:50] Scottmerrick Oh: thank you so much Hacks
[9:50] Hackshaven Harford: welcome all!
[9:51] Calisto Encinal: I'd like to see Felix on ths.
[9:51] Calisto Encinal: this
[9:52] Lyr Lobo: sorry Max *smiles*
[9:52] Max Chatnoir: Probably my fault.
[9:52] Hackshaven Harford: herm....
[9:52] Max Chatnoir: I'm clumsy in ALL lives!
[9:52] Hackshaven Harford: this does not look right
[9:52] Max Chatnoir: No clouds.
[9:52] Hackshaven Harford: are people seeing weather?
[9:52] Calisto Encinal: no
[9:52] Hackshaven Harford: it isn't my client?
[9:52] Lyr Lobo: no
[9:52] Corwin Carillon: nope can't see ... have lots of times before
[9:52] Hackshaven Harford: well dang
[9:52] Ann Enigma: hmm
[9:52] Hackshaven Harford: doh
[9:52] Ann Enigma: there ... yes!
[9:53] Ann Enigma: no
[9:53] Max Chatnoir: Here it comes..
[9:53] Hackshaven Harford: our supporting web site has crashed
[9:53] Corwin Carillon: hehe .. usually its SL!
[9:53] CDB Barkley: blue dots
[9:53] Hackshaven Harford: figures
[9:53] Hackshaven Harford: dang live demos
[9:53] Lyr Lobo smiles and nods
[9:53] Hackshaven Harford: so what happens here
[9:53] Max Chatnoir: Well, it will come back.
[9:53] Hackshaven Harford: is that there is a web site
[9:53] Hackshaven Harford: that proxies data from NOAA's web sites
[9:53] Hackshaven Harford: into second life
[9:53] Hackshaven Harford: and apparently that web site is borked
[9:54] Theory Shaw: are their any plans to model real time data to a 1:1 model?.... like manhattan for example?... or some similar populated enviroment?
[9:54] Hackshaven Harford: that makes me sad
[9:54] Hackshaven Harford: so normally it updates every 5 minutes or so
[9:54] Hackshaven Harford: with data from the national weather service
[9:54] Hackshaven Harford: each circle's temperature
[9:54] Hackshaven Harford: er... color corosponds to the temperature
[9:54] Hackshaven Harford: and then various cloud conditions are rezzed
[9:55] Hackshaven Harford: let me see if I can at least find a photo...
[9:55] Calisto Encinal: What a way to get the morning weather report!
[9:55] Max Chatnoir: Where is the server for the web site, Hacks?
[9:55] Hackshaven Harford: hehe are we still being recorded?
[9:55] Max Chatnoir: Maybe IT was a hurricane casualty.
[9:56] Lyr Lobo smiles
[9:56] Hackshaven Harford: I will have to have a strong talking with that admin
[9:56] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[9:56] Calisto Encinal: If it's in Nicaragua or Honduras, I wouldn't doubt it.
[9:56] Hackshaven Harford: oh well
[9:56] Hackshaven Harford: so second earth
[9:56] Hackshaven Harford: will be a nine sim version of this
[9:57] Hackshaven Harford: with the ability to show KML data
[9:57] Corwin Carillon: cool!
[9:57] Calisto Encinal: KML?
[9:57] Theory Shaw: just U.S?
[9:57] Hackshaven Harford: hopefully it will look more exciting that this...
[9:57] Hackshaven Harford: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hackshaven/369950844/in/set-72157594500016565/
[9:57] Max Chatnoir: Hacks, what's KML?
[9:57] Hackshaven Harford: here's a photo I took awhile ago
[9:57] Hackshaven Harford: oh sory
[9:57] Hackshaven Harford: KML stands for keyhole markup language
[9:57] Hackshaven Harford: and is an XML based format that google earth uses
[9:58] Hackshaven Harford: to overlay your own data
[9:58] Hackshaven Harford: ontop of google earth
[9:58] Hackshaven Harford: our hope is that by using a starting point
[9:58] Calisto Encinal: Thanks!
[9:58] Hackshaven Harford: that many people already use
[9:58] CDB Barkley: /bravo
[9:58] Hackshaven Harford: it would give us access to a wide range of data
[9:58] Hackshaven Harford: to display on second earth
[9:58] Max Chatnoir: That is going to be SO cool!
[9:59] Corwin Carillon: does the NASA earth one use KML too? (can't remember the name)
[9:59] Hackshaven Harford: hehe
[9:59] Hackshaven Harford: if it works
[9:59] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[9:59] Max Chatnoir: I think kids will start learning geography again...
[9:59] Theory Shaw: as server space gets cheaper, etc... does NOAA plan on projecting this weather data onto a 1:1 scale of the earth...not just a model, but a model we could occupy in a 1:1 fashion
[9:59] Hackshaven Harford: ha
[9:59] Hackshaven Harford: I'm not sure if we'll ever get to 1:1
[10:00] Theory Shaw: 1:1 from our avatar's perspective
[10:00] Hackshaven Harford: but I'd obviously like high resolution
[10:00] Hackshaven Harford: good question
[10:00] Hackshaven Harford: to be honest I don't know the future
[10:00] Hackshaven Harford: that probably won't happen inside SL
[10:00] Hackshaven Harford: but there are a lot of other platforms
[10:01] Hackshaven Harford: virtual worlds as a whole is taking off
[10:01] Hackshaven Harford: and who knows what platforms are around the corner
[10:01] Hackshaven Harford: if google earth were to introduce the concept of an avatar
[10:01] Theory Shaw: for sure... i would think it's only a matter of time, before you can occupy google earth with an avatar of some sort.
[10:01] Hackshaven Harford: then you could get a 1:1 data experience
[10:01] Theory Shaw: took the words right out of my mouth.
[10:01] Hackshaven Harford: darn web site
[10:01] Hackshaven Harford: meh
[10:02] Hackshaven Harford: everyone seen science on a sphere?
[10:02] Max Chatnoir: We can come back, Hacks,. It isn't going away.
[10:02] Ann Enigma: Hackshaven, thanks so much for your tour... excellent!
[10:02] Corwin Carillon: or an avatar inside phtosynth screped from flickr
[10:02] Hackshaven Harford: I hope not :)
[10:02] Hackshaven Harford: hehe
[10:02] Hackshaven Harford: another good thought corwin
[10:02] Hackshaven Harford: thank you Ann
[10:02] Calisto Encinal: Have a great day everyone!
[10:02] Corwin Carillon: /claps tuy Hackshaven!!
[10:02] Wolfgang Manzo: hacks, this was excellent!!
[10:02] Hackshaven Harford: take care!
[10:02] Calisto Encinal: Thanks, Hacks.
[10:03] Ann Enigma applauds
[10:03] Hackshaven Harford: de nada
[10:03] Calisto Encinal: Hasta luego!
[10:03] Corwin Carillon: great tour! :)
[10:03] Max Chatnoir: Very inspiring, Hackshaven.
[10:03] Theory Shaw: indeed thank you.
[10:03] Hackshaven Harford: thank you max
[10:03] Corwin Carillon: next Buzz in 2 weeks everyone
[10:03] Corwin Carillon: ty for coming
[10:03] Calisto Encinal: Gracias, Corwin!
[10:03] Wolfgang Manzo: thanks corwin
[10:03] Max Chatnoir: Yes, Thanks, Corwin.
[10:04] Hackshaven Harford: well thanks all for coming
[10:04] Hackshaven Harford: feel free to keep exploring
[10:04] Hackshaven Harford: there obviously wasn't enough time to see or talk about everything
[10:04] Corwin Carillon: but lots of great things to think about!
[10:05] Corwin Carillon: tyvm
